Noisy cabin - conclusion

[cmyX5go]

I just came back from the dealer, window motors were changed, still loud. Took off the side window deflectors, still loud. I drove 2 other E70s and they were just as loud as mine is. I guess I'll keep the tunes cranked.

I'm very surprised those of you who also went from the E53 to the E70 don't hear a difference. Both my E53s were tight and quiet. I never heard cars whizzing by, road noise etc. It seems like all outside noises are amplified in the E70....Do I have super hearing powers? Oh wait, I'm a woman, we hear EVERYTHING

[vinuneuro]

Strange indeed, but why were the window motors replaced? Those are inside the door.

[brian5]

I didn't have an E53 so I can't compare the E70 to that. I have no wind (or traffic or tire) noise at all.

Only time was this last weekend when I drove a long distance with a cargo box on top but even that was better than I'd previously experienced with cars and SUVs.

[cmyX5go]

Originally Posted by vinuneuro

Strange indeed, but why were the window motors replaced. Those are inside the door.

They thought that if the motor was weak, the window(s) might not stay up as tight as they should, resulting in it sounding as if the window was open. We then removed the window deflectors to see if possibly they weren't milled correctly, weren't installed correctly or had defective clips. It sounded the same without them on. We discussed replacing the window guides and seals but decided to check out other E70s first and they were as loud as mine.

[brian5]

Originally Posted by cmyX5go

They thought that if the motor was weak, the window(s) might not stay up as tight as they should, resulting in it sounding as if the window was open. We then removed the window deflectors to see if possibly they weren't milled correctly, weren't installed correctly or had defective clips. It sounded the same without them on. We discussed replacing the window guides and seals but decided to check out other E70s first and they were as loud as mine.

Did you check the rubber seals that are attached to the doors? I wonder if that is not sealing well enough against the door/s? You might want to see how easy it is to slide a piece of paper through the closed door.

The reason that I'm asking is that I thought the rear right door seal might have had a problem but I only heard it the one time. It has not re-occurred.

[cmyX5go]

I'll check it out but thought it was a mute point after hearing the noise levels in the other two E70s

[rh71]

What did the service guy think of the noise level in comparison with all the cars involved?

[brian5]

Originally Posted by cmyX5go

I'll check it out but thought it was a mute point after hearing the noise levels in the other two E70s

Yes, you could be right because you have compared it to two other E70's...

[cmyX5go]

We did all kinds of tests with the other E70s and the results were the same. Sitting at the driveway entrance on route 1 and listening to the traffic go by. Him outside and me inside talking to each other with the windows up, first with the engine off and then with it running. Stereo on and how much you can hear it from outside with the windows closed. You get the idea. He agreed with me that the E53 was quieter and so are the other models. Off the record he thinks that the E70 is not insulated as well as the E53 was in an effort to keep the weight down. If you've ever opened the hood on an E53 and on an E70 you know what I mean.

[brian5]

Originally Posted by cmyX5go

<<snip>>If you've ever opened the hood on an E53 and on an E70 you know what I mean.

I've never felt a hood like one on the E70 before! I thought that I had just received a cheap plastic one that they used for shipping when I first felt it!!