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Old 09-06-2008, 09:20 PM
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That is just the tip of the iceberg. There are plenty, plenty more policy reasons, but I tried to give you a mix of both personal an policy reasons.

Now you want me to lay out his four point plan for each of those? Quit being lazy and research it yourself. Its there.

It is now your turn to rebutt my reasons for chosing Obama. You tell me that he doesn't have a plan for those points and that my choice in his candidacy is flawed.

I don't have to respond, as there has yet to be actual policies stated. I mean I could say I love what so and so will do for the environment, economy, defense...and not state a reason
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Old 09-07-2008, 12:11 AM
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I don't have to respond, as there has yet to be actual policies stated. I mean I could say I love what so and so will do for the environment, economy, defense...and not state a reason

You crack me up!
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Old 09-07-2008, 01:05 AM
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OK Krimson X.

1. Because he is not Alan Keyes (Black folks don't always vote for the black candidate); In this case 90% + are.
2. Because John McCain voted against MLK holiday in Arizona; Fair enough
3. Because Obama is not a Muslim (not that it should matter); That would matter for most of America.
4. Because He is not John McCain, ergo, visavi, he is not Bush; John McCain IS John McCain but John McCain is not Bush either.
5. Because Obama loves his country; Sure but Michelle Obama is only Now proud of her country now that her husband is in the position he is as a Presidential Candidate. I guess you can love something you've not been proud of prior.
6. Because he is the epitome of the American Dream; OK...What ever that means. You could say the same thing about McCain or Palin.
7. Because Obama has skillfully and masterfully managed his campaign; That is not saying much about his CAMPAIGN MANAGER. I'm understanding that Obama is not the one responsible for the day to day management of his campaign.
8. Because he had the foresight to disagree with the Iraq war before it started; But he lacked to foresight to see a benefit of the surge which has turned the war around. Had he had his way and other like him we would have surrendered and turned Iraq over to Iran.
9. Because Obama will cut taxes for the middle class (and from McCain's perspective, that is anyone with less than 5 million in assets); And he will raise taxes on those who create jobs. Which is OK if you don't eat or buy anything.
10. Because he will make health care both competitive and more affordable; Again...At what cost?
11. Because Obama will improve public schools, not continue to underfund them with voucher programs that do not work; Sure...Force everyone into a failing school which is failing because of unfit parents who will be given more government subsides for continuing to fail.
12. Because he will reform the No Child Left Behind Act (more qualified teachers and the end of "teaching to the test."); Where is the responsibility of the parent?
13. Because Obama will maintain our position as the world's No. 1 superpower thru diplomacy first, military strength second; Did diplomacy end the cold war? How much more should we count on the United Nations and NATO to negotiate with terrorist nations and ease tensions?
14. Because he will continue to support our troops in the field and our veterans at home; Yet to be seen.
15. Because Obama will crack down on employers of illegal immigrants; Doubt that seeing the Left is the one pushing for less of a crack down. Just look at San Francisco and Nanci Pelosi.
16. Because he will fix NAFTA; Sure he will.
17. Becuase Obama supports the American workforce; The workforce is not a workforce with out a job created by employers.
18. Because in his eight years as an Illinois senator, Obama has sponsored over 800 bills (sounds like experience to me); OK...If you say so.
19. Because Obama has sponsored over 130 bills in the U.S. Senate (see parenthetical comment No. 18); Ditto
20. Because I just like the guy.[/quote] You are free to like who you wish. Obama liked William Ayers who bombed the Pentagon, Reverend Wright and Tony Rezko.
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OK Krimson X.

1. Because he is not Alan Keyes (Black folks don't always vote for the black candidate); In this case 90% + are.
2. Because John McCain voted against MLK holiday in Arizona; Fair enough
3. Because Obama is not a Muslim (not that it should matter); That would matter for most of America.
4. Because He is not John McCain, ergo, visavi, he is not Bush; John McCain IS John McCain but John McCain is not Bush either.
5. Because Obama loves his country; Sure but Michelle Obama is only Now proud of her country now that her husband is in the position he is as a Presidential Candidate. I guess you can love something you've not been proud of prior.
6. Because he is the epitome of the American Dream; OK...What ever that means. You could say the same thing about McCain or Palin.
7. Because Obama has skillfully and masterfully managed his campaign; That is not saying much about his CAMPAIGN MANAGER. I'm understanding that Obama is not the one responsible for the day to day management of his campaign.
8. Because he had the foresight to disagree with the Iraq war before it started; But he lacked to foresight to see a benefit of the surge which has turned the war around. Had he had his way and other like him we would have surrendered and turned Iraq over to Iran.
9. Because Obama will cut taxes for the middle class (and from McCain's perspective, that is anyone with less than 5 million in assets); And he will raise taxes on those who create jobs. Which is OK if you don't eat or buy anything.
10. Because he will make health care both competitive and more affordable; Again...At what cost?
11. Because Obama will improve public schools, not continue to underfund them with voucher programs that do not work; Sure...Force everyone into a failing school which is failing because of unfit parents who will be given more government subsides for continuing to fail.
12. Because he will reform the No Child Left Behind Act (more qualified teachers and the end of "teaching to the test."); Where is the responsibility of the parent?
13. Because Obama will maintain our position as the world's No. 1 superpower thru diplomacy first, military strength second; Did diplomacy end the cold war? How much more should we count on the United Nations and NATO to negotiate with terrorist nations and ease tensions?
14. Because he will continue to support our troops in the field and our veterans at home; Yet to be seen.
15. Because Obama will crack down on employers of illegal immigrants; Doubt that seeing the Left is the one pushing for less of a crack down. Just look at San Francisco and Nanci Pelosi.
16. Because he will fix NAFTA; Sure he will.
17. Becuase Obama supports the American workforce; The workforce is not a workforce with out a job created by employers.
18. Because in his eight years as an Illinois senator, Obama has sponsored over 800 bills (sounds like experience to me); OK...If you say so.
19. Because Obama has sponsored over 130 bills in the U.S. Senate (see parenthetical comment No. 18); Ditto
20. Because I just like the guy.
You are free to like who you wish. Obama liked William Ayers who bombed the Pentagon, Reverend Wright and Tony Rezko.[/quote]

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