You compared race relations to NFL draft picks, and I'm the one with Sweeping Statements

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I only used it to show that even in things seemingly unrelated as sports, this concept is not new. I was in no means equating the importance of each issue..


It is well... It was a joke I didn't laugh at.. So what? Life moves on...

Barry should be VERY ashamed of himself based on YOUR beliefs and morals?

That's pretty arrogant.

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I do like B-line actually, and Barry.... and to be honest, you too, i mean, without you around this place would be dull and uninteresting... and the average IQ would be about 40 points higher, but that's not important right now.

Barry should be ashamed of himself because I have heard him, on many, occasions, talk about racism, prejudicial behavior and equality.

He is the first person to link any article or information about something that may or may not have racist overtones in the hopes of trying to spread tolerance.

But in the same breath, he says, that since African Americans had to sit on the back of the bus and Gays did not, that the prejudice that Gays are victim to is not the same.

Well Gresch I am a Jew, I would say, that you don't need to be Black to understand what racism is, what prejudice is. But I guess Barry has never spent any time with any Holocaust survivors. Or I guess he never met anyone with the last name Goldberg, that wasn't allowed to live in certain communities, or be allowed into certain country clubs, or even get certain jobs or be admitted into certain schools.

Civil Rights are not a device to be used exclusively for the African American community.

And while Barry might have the belief that homosexuality is morally repugnant, he is entitled to that belief and that moral, regardless if it is the same as my belief and moral. (Not arrogance)

But in the same breath, regardless of his personal stance on the act and being of homosexuality, he, more so, than anyone else on this board, should understand tolerance, equality, and also what it feels like to be treated different and be a minority.

To state that the fight for equality that the Gay community is fighting for is not the same, because a gay person can choose not to be gay, but a black person can't choose not to be black, is an insult that I take personally.

Religion is a choice, and what Barry is suggesting is, since I am Jewish but can change my religion, in the same manner that a gay man can choose not to have gay sex, that we don't understand what racism is.

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I absolutely agree...

I threw up a bit in my mouth reading his comment.

I am a socially liberal person, and I am in support of this movement, and I simply don't know where to start regarding the comment.

So I won't.

But I will say this: A line must be drawn. Of course. But people are people are people. There will be no "mass chaos" because of this. People won't start "marrying their pets" due to gay marriage. The very thought is ridiculous. Everyone should absolutely have equal rights. Homosexuals don't choose to be homosexual--they are born that way. The same is true of their adopted children; no matter if they are raised in a gay or straight household, how they grow up is judged by nature, not by their surroundings.

Edit: B-Line, I'm also Jewish, although my sister has red hair and doesn't look it. She has been in several situations where people around her have made Jew jokes, not realizing. Says a lot about our country, does it not? Everything is just "swept under the rug..."

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With every freedom granted, each "minority" becomes just a little less special. I think the thing really bugging racial/sex related minorities is that nobody else cares.

I could give a crap if you had it tough growing up, people didn't like you, or you weren't invited to the party. Name the reason, any reason, don't care. I'm sure there are 100 people behind "you" with a worse story.