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Old 05-17-2008, 03:46 PM
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Excellent question:



If two men get married.... Who's the mother and who's the Father



If two women get married who's the mother and who's the father



Seems like that would be confusing for a child who would need a mother if it were two men, and equally as confusing for a child that needed a father if it were two women.

Stop Bringing Up Stupid Questions, If 2 loving people want to have a child, that sure as hell beats being in a foster home or having 1 parent etc
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I don't think so my friend.
That argument doesn't fly.

During the time when making
black folks ride the back of the bus
was fashionable here's how it worked.

On any given day If you and i got on the bus
at the same time and you were gay
All you would have to do is keep your
mouth shut find any seat in the front
and no one would know the difference.

Me on the other hand? No need to say a word.
The skin I'm in would dictate "go to the back of the bus"
I lived it my friend. Believe me there is a difference.

End of argument.

But African Americans, of all people, should be the most accepting, due to the fact they've had to fight for equal rights, this of coarse pertaining to the seperate but not equal argument.

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Old 05-17-2008, 04:29 PM
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Most people are against this but there really isn't an argument against it that holds water

This list has been around for a while

1. Homosexuality is not natural, much like eyeglasses, polyester, and birth control are not natural.
2. Heterosexual marriages are valid because they produce children. Infertile couples and old people cannot get legally married because the world needs more children.
3. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children because straight parents only raise straight children.
4. Straight marriage will be less meaningful, since Britney Spears's 55-hour just-for-fun marriage was meaningful.
5. Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and it hasn't changed at all: women are property, Blacks can't marry Whites, and divorce is illegal.
6. Gay marriage should be decided by the people, not the courts, because the majority-elected legislatures, not courts, have historically protected the rights of minorities.
7. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are always imposed on the entire country. That's why we only have one religion in America.
8. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people makes you tall.
9. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage license.
10. Children can never succeed without both male and female role models at home. That's why single parents are forbidden to raise children.
11. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society. Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and we could never adapt to new social norms because we haven't adapted to cars or longer lifespans.
12. Civil unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because a "separate but equal" institution is always constitutional. Separate schools for African-Americans worked just as well as separate marriages will for gays & lesbians.
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Old 05-17-2008, 05:41 PM
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Most people are against this but there really isn't an argument against it that holds water

This list has been around for a while

1. Homosexuality is not natural, much like eyeglasses, polyester, and birth control are not natural.
2. Heterosexual marriages are valid because they produce children. Infertile couples and old people cannot get legally married because the world needs more children.
3. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children because straight parents only raise straight children.
4. Straight marriage will be less meaningful, since Britney Spears's 55-hour just-for-fun marriage was meaningful.
5. Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and it hasn't changed at all: women are property, Blacks can't marry Whites, and divorce is illegal.
6. Gay marriage should be decided by the people, not the courts, because the majority-elected legislatures, not courts, have historically protected the rights of minorities.
7. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are always imposed on the entire country. That's why we only have one religion in America.
8. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people makes you tall.
9. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage license.
10. Children can never succeed without both male and female role models at home. That's why single parents are forbidden to raise children.
11. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society. Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and we could never adapt to new social norms because we haven't adapted to cars or longer lifespans.
12. Civil unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because a "separate but equal" institution is always constitutional. Separate schools for African-Americans worked just as well as separate marriages will for gays & lesbians.

Are you for real?

People that are gay married or otherwise is no big deal. Heterosexuality will not go away just like homosexuality will not go away. You sound like the leader of China saying that they don't have gays.

How many kids are raised by 16 girls on welfare, two loving parents no matter the sex is a much better scenario. My daughter went to school with a boy brought up by two gay women (his folk were dead), he seemed happy and well cared for. He is now 19 and dating girls.
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:10 PM
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:13 PM
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Sorry, thought you were advocating for the list.
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But African Americans, of all people, should be the most accepting, due to the fact they've had to fight for equal rights, but they seem the least in my opinion, why is that?

So an entire race of individuals (group A) should be more accepting of another group (groub B) because of a perceived " we both have a us against them" mentality? Are there no individuals in group A? Everyone is the same huh? Same religion, same beliefs, same morals, same same same? Isn't that idiocy what you're fighting against? stereotyping?

Do you not see the stereotypical hypocrisy in what you've just said?

unbelieveable.
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:53 PM
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So an entire race of individuals (group A) should be more accepting of another group (groub B) because of a perceived " we both have a us against them" mentality? Are there no individuals in group A? Everyone is the same huh? Same religion, same beliefs, same morals, same same same? Isn't that idiocy what you're fighting against? stereotyping?

Do you not see the stereotypical hypocrisy in what you've just said?

unbelieveable.
I agree yet I'm saying to me it doesn't make sense that people that have gone through the same issues as we are facing now would be a lot more supportive by default. I worded that totally wrong and need to edit it. I meant it as a question not a personal statement
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Old 05-17-2008, 09:19 PM
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You're not going thru the same issues. Not by a long shot.

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I agree yet I'm saying to me it doesn't make sense that people that have gone through the same issues as we are facing now would be a lot more supportive by default. I worded that totally wrong and need to edit it. I meant it as a question not a personal statement
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Old 05-17-2008, 09:21 PM
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Careful there blondboinsd. Expressing yourself is not always in the best interest of society. This is not a free-for-all referendum which states everything is fair game. I hope you agree there ARE boundary's to behavior to maintain a civil society. I happen to believe that homosexuality like heterosexuality is sometimes a product of nature as well as a product of nurture. As long as that act is consensual among consenting adults I don't have an issue.

That does not mean I will consent to any behavior someone else feels should be appropriate in society to express themselves.

I'd list examples but I do wish to maintain some level of decorum.


with all respect my friend. You are living in a LIE. There is a such a thing in life called evolution. Let your mind try it.
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