Originally Posted by Eric5273

Ok...since you know more, tell me a single member of congress or someone in the federal government who has proposed that we switch to a completely socialized medicine system, and post for me the article that quotes them talking about it or the part of their website that states this position. I'd be shocked if you could find a single one.

As it is, barely any of the liberals have even suggested a single payer system. Of all of the Democrats who ran in the primary for president, only Dennis Kucinich was in favor of a single payer system, and even he did not want to socialize the entire system.

As for Obama, he is not in favor of a single payer system, so it is laughable that people not only accuse him of that, but they accuse him of wanting socialized medicine. If Obama gets his way completely, not a single employee in the current health care system will become a government employee. All he simply wants to do is collectively bargain with the private insurance companies for those who do not have insurance. The result of Obama's plan will be that more people have health insurance, and those in the highest tax bracket will pay for it. But it will not mean any improvement in the quality of care, and will not solve the conflict of interest problems that plague the current system. The insurance companies will still do their best to pay out as little as possible and provide as little care as possible in order to maximize their profits, and doctors will still be hamstrung by what the insurance companies order.

As for McCain, he has not said much at all except a bunch of double talk. He claims we need to "fix" the health care system through the free market. What the hell does that mean? If the free market is "free", then how do you "fix it"?? And if you do "fix it", then aren't you messing with the free market and it will no longer be a free market? He has said nothing that makes any sense, and has not proposed any specifics as to what he would do to fix the current health care system.